Now presenting Ben and Seth Reed, who possess an honorary doctorate in Not Staying on Topic, But Also Not Having Topics Sometimes. We wish we could tell you what we talked about this episode, but almost nothing that we planned to talk about was visited. Prepare to sit in on an audio-only conversation that has a lot of visual-aided storytelling, and think, “Wow I wish there was a video so I could see what they’re talking about.” Enjoy <3