In the era of AI disruption, what does real leadership look like? 

Claressa Monteiro sits down with Alan Murray, former Fortune Media CEO and founding president of The Wall Street Journal Leadership Institute, to unpack what it means to lead through relentless change. 

From Grab’s AI transformation to the value of empathy and lifelong learning, Murray argues that true leadership today isn’t just about vision or results, but about earning trust and helping people navigate uncertainty.

Highlights of the conversation: 

03:01 Leadership’s biggest challenge today

08:23 How Grab is leading the AI transformation

13:55 The real threat of AI disruption

16:36 Young people struggle to find jobs

18:42 Don’t forget the older workers

23:44 The biggest mistake we’re making right now

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Written and presented by: Claressa Monteiro ([email protected])

With Alan Murray, founding president, WSJ Leadership Institute 

Post-production: Claressa Monteiro and Emily Liu

Coordinating producer: Chai Pei Chieh

Video production: Studio +65

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