You may recognize Daryl Davis from his Netflix documentary Accidental Courtesy or his January appearance on the Joe Rogan Experience podcast.

He's a stellar jazz/blues musician and an unusual activist as a black man who dialogues with, and in many cases deprograms, white racists in the Ku Klux Klan.

Daryl and I discuss the strange smears of the morally righteous along with the varied roots of bigotry and resentment which surface-level condemnation and outrage often miss.