On today's episode I'm joined by 'clinal companion animal behaviourist', Rosie Barclay.

Rosie has been working with animals the majority of her life, but has been entranced by them for essentially the totality of it. She pushes for the narrative on non-forceful or abusive techniques for helping train and understand animals, and is currently available via vet referral in the Channel Islands.

You can find out more about Rosie at her website, www.petproblems.com

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Music by 'Sizzlebird' 

Album: Horizons

Bandcamp - https://sizzlebird1.bandcamp.com/album/horizons