In the early 1980s, Marty Markowitz turned to psychiatrist Ike Herschkopf for help. Marty struggled with panic attacks and decision-making. At first, the therapy seemed to help. But instead of building Marty’s confidence, Ike worked his way deeper into every part of his life.

Sessions that began as short meetings grew into lunches, dinners, and late-night calls. Soon, Ike wasn’t just Marty’s doctor—he became his business advisor, his “best friend,” and eventually, the person making almost every decision for him.

Things I Learned Last Night is an educational comedy podcast where best friends Jaron Myers and Tim Stone talk about random topics and have fun all along the way. If you like learning, and laughing a whole lot while you do, then you’ll love TILLN. Watch or listen to this episode today!

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