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(recorded December 17, 2025)

Episode Sponsor: Securly

Join Marc, Rachel, and our guests:

Ellen Dorr, Chief of Technology and Strategic Initiatives for the Renton School District and ACPE Board Member

and

Melissa Lim, Learning Technologies Program Administrator at Portland Public Schools

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We chat this episode about leading change through generations of technology innovations, with a focus more on the people change than the technology change itself. We also remember Rob Reiner and celebrate his most quotable, memorable films.

*Oh, and Marc's hairline is uneven post-surgery, or as Nicole says, it adds character.