In this episode, we get chatty with Ilona Aman, who was just leaving her role as CMO of Athleta. The conversation covers a lot of ground, from pioneering a product category to creating a brand to pursuing career goals and work-life balance. There are fun stories, solid insights, plenty of laughs, and even a couple podcast ideas.

Be Meaningful is more like a brand consultation disguised as a podcast. In each episode, the partners of new branding agency Meaningful invite a CEO, CMO or a founder to discuss their brand. These candid conversations explore the vision, challenges and opportunities through the lens of marketing in a world of constant change and immutable human truths.

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