I liked Jeff the moment I met him (and yes, I met him through Tea Pop). He seemed genuine even though he straight up lied to my face seconds after we started talking.

This was another one of those hard episodes to cut because like Keara Glandt, Jeff and I love to get lost in conversation and just ramble from topic to topic. Seriously, before he even sat down Jeff was already jumping into the dialogue before I could even turn on the recorder.

In this interview we talk about how I am so obviously a comedian, the way I enjoy catching people in traps, and how much I enjoy being miserable.