In this episode, Kelly and Don dive headfirst into the glory and weirdness of getting older. From 5 a.m. wakeups and existential sleep spirals to midlife musings, missed careers, and the psychological politics of sending emails at 2 a.m.—it’s all on the table.

They also debate the true meaning of “work-life balance,” confess to having zero interest in early morning board games, and discuss the art of rediscovering who you are in your 40s (hint: it might involve pottery or popcorn at 10 a.m.). Oh, and things briefly spiral into adult content and yeast anxiety.

Come for the laughs, stay for the honesty—and maybe rethink your stance on lemon Spindrift.

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