This episode goes on way long. And the last ten minutes is essentially me just talking about the last eighteen years that lead up to now. But it's good sentimental stuff and Ben Herwitz has a great zinger to cap it with. He's good at that: getting you to talk and then having a fun comment to add.

In this conversation we talk about the struggles of living in your car for an extended period of time, how I'm more narcissistic than Marc Maron, and how I come off as a radio asshole whose just using stand up to work out his radio bits.