I grew up learning about America as "The Great Melting Pot." It was taught with pride. Today, the governing cabal has nothing but disdain for immigrants, unless they're married to Trump, I guess. Today on the show, we'll hear a conversation with David Dayen of The American Prospect that happened at the height of the government's assault on Los Angeles. And for a different and surprising look at immigration and what it actually is about, my interview with author Jessica Goudeau about her surprising book, "We Were Illegal: Uncovering a Texas Family's Mythmaking and Migration".

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