The Institute of Public Affairs’ Daniel Wild and John Roskam discuss attempts by the federal government to censor the debate about its out-of-control migration program and the rallies held over the weekend by mainstream Australians.

Dan and John also celebrate National Flag Day and discuss the enduring importance of our flag, as well as the arguments for and against Australia becoming a republic. Also, they both discuss how Taylor Swift's podcast reveals media deceit in action.

John also takes you through his latest book, Abundance, by Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson – otherwise known as Chris Bowens' Bible.

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