What happens when tariffs, talent migration, and immigration collide at the policy level?

In this episode, Chelsea welcomes Andy Semotiuk, U.S. and Canadian immigration attorney, Forbes contributor, and policy expert, to explore how shifting U.S.-Canada dynamics are impacting global trade, innovation, and the human cost of enforcement.

We cover:

Tariffs and the decline of North American cooperation

The rising role of Canadian contractors in U.S. detention infrastructure

Why top academic talent is quietly leaving the U.S.

A controversial vision: North America as a shared economic zone

Timestamps:

[00:00] – Meet Andy Semotiuk and podcast setup

[07:14] – Tariff tensions and why Canada is pushing back

[13:47] – Could the U.S. become the next China-style isolationist power?

[21:00] – The logistics and contracts behind U.S. immigration detention

[28:41] – Ukraine’s tech model and U.S. brain drain to Canada

[34:17] – $10 billion in lost trade—and rising concerns

[41:49] – Wealth inequality and the disappearing middle class

[46:55] – Where to find Andy and continue the conversation

Links and Resources:

• Andy Semotiuk LinkedIn profile
• Pace Law Firm
• Chelsea’s LinkedIn Profile