In the latest episode of BTN Europe's 'In conversation with...' podcast series, editor-in-chief Andy Hoskins speaks to Clive Wratten, chief executive of the Business Travel Association (BTA).

After a series of senior roles across the industry, most recently as CEO of TMC Amber Road and UK country manager for Etihad Airways, Clive took the helm at the BTA in September and was subsequently pitched into a year unlike any other.

Clive discusses the current condition of the TMC market, the measures required to really get business travel going, what volumes might look like by the end of 2021, and a whole lot more.