In this episode I had a fabulous chat with Heather. We had aimed to look at what draws people to more 'glamorous' 'from different world' trainers but it turned into a wonderful introspective (well certainly for me, I hope Heather enjoyed it too).

We ask how to be credible.

What are our insecurities

How to collaborate and build connections.

If you are a trainer, a coach, a consultant, a business woman, a horse lover...this one is for you.

Heather helps horses and people learn to be comfortable with healthcare procedures using positive reinforcement

training. She also help horses and riders with getting started

under saddle, as well as ways to help develop confidence

with riding. In her own words she's a failed traditional horsewoman. She understands traditional skills and methodologies, and how and why they work, but after thirty years working with horses she did not have the kind of success she has now with positive reinforcement training. She have had Fibromyalgia for nearly 40 years. This has given her deep insight into how chronic pain and fatigue affects all aspects of life, for people and animals. It's because of this that she's been drawn to study neuroscience, behavior, biomechanics, and so forth.

Her life experiences with neurodivergence (because, she says, she has a weird brain) and chronic illness have given her some really strong opinions on the one-size-fits-all approach in American culture, and in the equestrian industry in general, particularly with respect to learning.

Heather is on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/equusintegratus

and her website:

https://equusintegratus.com