Ross has been a therapist and educator for 20 years, but has only recently graduated from the gestalt training. We hear how this new approach has changed the way he thinks about therapy, and what he's looking forward to now he has these new life experiences and skills.

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Created, recorded, edited and produced by Dara Donnelly / Interview: Ross / Music: The Joy Dispensary