Jackson and Taylor discuss various anti-heroes in literature, film, and TV shows, starting with characters like Carrie Bradshaw from Sex and the City and Rebecca Bunch from Crazy Ex-Girlfriend. They explore the complexities and flaws of these characters, highlighting how they reflect real human struggles. They also discuss the relatability of anti-heroes and the tendency to empathize with characters who make mistakes. The conversation touches on the psychological aspects of these characters and the portrayal of mental illness in shows. Overall, they argue that anti-heroes are compelling and engaging because they mirror our own internal struggles. They also discuss Patrick Bateman from American Psycho, Pearl from the movie Pearl, Frank Gallagher from Shameless, and Tony Soprano from The Sopranos. Their song this week is "Suburban House" featuring Lana Del Rey by Holly Macve.