Katie & Audrey "defend" (note the sarcasm) the most widely hated villain in the Wizarding World, Dolores Jane Umbridge. We talk about her background, what makes her a great villain, and how generally horrible she is.

*If you wish to skip the segment about what happens to Umbridge in the Forbidden Forest, in which we talk about themes of rape and sexual assault, you can skip ahead from minute 40:00 to 51:20.*

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