Two amazing humans navigate the grey as they spend some time talking about how they move through their work - one black, one white. We talk about how difficult and daunting it can be to come up with pod topics, even though race is everywhere. It's not that we're without topics, it's more about how hard it can be to do it every week. Granted, we know living is harding than talking! It comes down to intentionality and humanity.

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