Some of the most useful conversations happen when you stop trying to make them perfect. That's exactly where this episode begins—with a glass of wine, a story about stubborn barn swallows, and a surprisingly honest look at what it takes to keep creating.
Finding the Connection & Fighting the LoopWhat started as a frustrating battle to keep barn swallows from nesting above the front door turned into a reflection on persistence, resistance, and when clinging to something stops serving you. That same thread runs through his experience as the show's producer and editor. 

Keith openly admits that the hours he spends chasing audio perfection—obsessing over plosives and harsh consonants. It’s become their own form of resistance. He's not just polishing the product; he's avoiding the discomfort of putting himself out there. The insight he lands on is sharp: he needs to invest his energy on the front end, in preparation, conversation, and connection, rather than endlessly refining what's already done. Going live for this episode was his way of putting that belief into action.
The Instigator Who Keeps Them MovingLaura's role in the story of In Residence is more foundational than most listeners might realize. She was the one who turned Keith’s desire to podcast into reality, knowing that a shared commitment was the nudge he needed. Laura’s candid about her own tension.  

Between her natural instinct to plan and scope an idea versus Keith's need to let creativity surface organically, she describes her preparation style as noticing "sparks" throughout the week. She values the loose, unscripted format precisely because it keeps their conversations genuine. Her take on what makes the podcast sustainable is simple and honest: she shows up, shares what's on her mind, and trusts Keith to handle the rest.
Keep Showing UpEvery project has a gap between the vision and the reality, and that gap is not a reason to quit. It's the work. Whether you're podcasting, building a business, or pursuing any goal that matters to you, the resistance you feel is usually a sign you're on the right track. Keep showing up.

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Shipping vs. Perfecting | Previously LIVE In Residence
00:00 - Intro01:53 - Barn Swallow Story04:05 - Why Do We Keep Going Back to What Isn't Working?05:21 - Resistance and the Creative Process08:05 - Going Live Instead of Over-Editing09:01 - Editing Dilemma15:43 - How Do You Prepare for Each Episode?18:01 - Keith and Laura's Different Styles25:56 - Do You Rehearse or Wing It?26:25 - Have You Ever Thought About Quitting?27:47 - What Makes a Conversation Feel Real?34:23 - What Made You Start the Podcast Together?44:47 - What's the Hardest Part of Podcasting Consistently?55:10 - Where Is In Residence Headed Next?57:00 - Whimsy

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What if the sparks that lit you up before life got complicated were actually pointing you toward your best self all along? Keith and Laura take a trip back to their 90s childhoods, not for nostalgia's sake, but to ask a more meaningful question: what parts of yourself have you been carrying quietly, and what have you let fade?
Stop Dimming Your SparkleLaura opens the episode fresh off a vivid dream about her childhood dog. With a little help from AI, she interprets the dream as a reminder that vulnerable pieces of her childhood are still with her, and deserve to be held with tenderness and care. From there, she unpacks the things her younger self loved most and the things she buried to fit in.She talks about returning to the piano after years away, rediscovering her identity as a lifelong musician who started playing at age three. She opens up about how much of her early energy went into worrying about what others thought and how exhausting that was. Drawing on Mel Robbins' Let Them Theory, Laura shares the shift she's made: letting people think what they'll think, and choosing to let herself live. Her message to her younger self, and to every listener, is clear—stop checking the social boxes just to belong. You don't have to dim yourself. Find your people. Let yourself sparkle.
Fan the Flame, Stop Hiding Behind ExcusesKeith’s reflection starts with hockey and the inner athlete he's been slowly welcoming back through tennis lessons. He talks about how his competitive drive never left, it just needed better direction, and how sport makes fitness feel purposeful and alive rather than obligatory.But it's his creative side that carries the most weight. Keith reflects on Lego, drawing, comic books, and tinkering — a rich inner world of building and creating that he downplayed for years because he didn't think of himself as an "artist." He traces it back to perfectionism: if it didn't look right, it wasn't worth doing. Now he can see himself getting in his own way, and that awareness is the first step. His challenge to himself is to stop using chores and responsibilities as excuses to avoid the things that actually fuel him. Embrace the creative spark. Let go of perfect. Build the thing.
Bring It With YouKeith and Laura both land on the same truth: moving forward doesn't mean returning to the turbulence of those younger years. It means recognizing the seeds that were planted back then and giving them room to grow now. You've evolved. The people around you have too. You probably don't need as much armor as you once thought. The goal isn't to be who you were, it’s to nurture the parts of yourself that were always worth keeping.
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Don't Dim Your Sparkle

00:00 - Intro01:00 - Laura's Dream03:00 - 90s Nostalgia04:45 - Dimming Yourself to Fit In06:30 - Peer Pressure07:25 - Reconnecting with Music as Identity11:00 - Life Is an Adventure13:50 - You've Evolved15:30 - Reigniting the Athlete Within19:50 - What You Think Matters More23:45 - Identity in the 90s25:24 - Supporting Creativity28:20 - Don't Dim Your Sparkle30:50 - Unapologetic Quirkiness31:36 - Outro

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What if you could only talk about two things: what's frustrating you, or what you're proud of? That's the challenge Keith and Laura took on in this episode. The couple try a lighthearted format—only talking about things you're either "bitching or bragging" about. The tone is playful, but the conversation naturally surfaces deeper insights about self-awareness, personal contradictions, relationships, communication, and how we process both frustration and achievement.
The Contradiction of Celebrating and ComplainingFrom the moment the format was introduced, Keith noticed he's deeply uncomfortable doing either one. And doing both out loud? That's practically against his Midwestern wiring. But sitting with that discomfort led somewhere real. When Keith bragged about mowing the lawn or solving the barn swallow problem, he recognized that the same tasks he'd been resenting were actually worth acknowledging. He reflected that complaining is often a hiding place. It's easier to be annoyed at the mundane than to face something scary and important. 
Owning Wins Without ApologyLaura came to the table with her own list and her own hesitation. She complained honestly about deer demolishing her garden, perimenopause disrupting her sleep, clutter that never quite goes away, and watching people drift through life without drive. But her brags carried just as much weight. She spoke about her instinct to figure things out, her love of travel as a lens for seeing the world more fully, and being accepted into a Rising President Fellowship—something she almost left off her list entirely out of shyness.
Notice, Don't SuppressBoth complaining and celebrating are signals. They tell you what matters to you, where your energy is going, and where you might be hiding. Keith’s takeaway: acknowledge what's bothering you, stay curious, celebrate the small wins, and stop using frustration as a reason to stall. Everything Laura shared is agency. She believes most people can cultivate a sense of direction—and she leads by example, even when celebrating herself doesn't come naturally.
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Bitch or Brag | Signal & Noise

00:00 - Intro
00:33 - "Bitch or Brag" concept
02:12 - uncomfortable bragging AND complaining
03:46 - Laura's first complaint
06:10 - bragging (and bitching) about mowing the lawn
09:22 - unfinished projects left half-done
12:04 - solving problem
16:19 - hide from important (scary) work
17:03 - tennis lessons
18:26 - Keith as a partner
19:23 - Keith's complaint: being apart during the week
20:56 - The power of communication in a relationship
22:18 - perimenopause and sleepless nights
24:41 - being part of an inefficient plan
26:55 - generous, and present for people
27:45 - not enough storage for a collector's heart
29:59 - love of travel and sense of adventure
32:39 - apathy and lack of direction in others
33:44 - Rising President Fellowship
34:10 - celebrating wins without shame
35:22 - Wrapping up & Final thoughts
37:05 - Outro

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Keith and Laura reconnect after a busy two-week stretch. They haven't journaled in two weeks and end up in a wide-ranging conversation about routines, identity, presence, and the unexpected clarity that comes from simply living your life. The episode covers two central experiences: their accidental journaling breaks and Laura's navigation and adapting due to hip arthritis and the meaningful parallels between the two.
Getting Out of Your Own WayKeith noticed that over a busy two-week stretch of tennis tournaments, a family trip to the Indy 500, and the everyday demands of life; he had stopped journaling almost without noticing. What surprised him wasn't the break itself, but how well things went without it. He found himself being present and taking action, rather than spending time in aspirational planning on the page. That experience surfaced something worth sitting with: the guilt of breaking a valued routine can quietly become its own form of resistance. 
Adapting with GraceLaura's thread in this episode is both practical and deeply human. Living with hip arthritis, she found herself grieving the loss of her annual full-scale garden. A cherished ritual that connects her to quiet, nature, and herself; rather than forcing the old approach or giving up entirely, she moved through the grief, asked for help, and got intentional about what mattered most. She also shares her growing practice of replacing passive evening screen time with genuinely enjoyable, goal-aligned activities—puzzles, movement, reading, and how that shift has made rest feel restorative rather than lazy.
The Bigger PictureThe difference between writing about the person you want to be and actually being that person comes down to one thing—getting out of your own way and doing the work. The key is not to abandon reflection, but to hold routines with more flexibility and less self-judgment.

When life disrupts your routines, it's often revealing something about your priorities, your identity, and your capacity for self-compassion. The goal isn't a perfect practice—it's a flexible, intentional life that keeps moving forward, even when things look different than planned.

Action Over Aspiration | Presence, Identity & Letting Go

00:00 - Intro01:00 - Life Has Been Busy 01:55 - Accidental Journaling Holiday Begins07:59 - Being vs. Aspiring09:44 - Overthinking, Avoidance & the Happy Medium12:30 - Processing Partner13:24 - Talking vs. Writing16:48 - Prioritizing What Matters18:05 - Holding Space Instead of Fixing19:15 - Grieving What Used to Be21:21 - Asking for Help Isn't Weakness23:07 - Processing Out Loud: Keith's Supportive Questions26:30 - From Grief to Action32:38 - Living Life as Clarity: Presence Over Introspection33:21 - Identity Is Your Actions, Not Just Your Intentions35:41 - Community, Showing Up, and the Joy of Being Present37:47 - Intentional Evenings44:43 - Reset with Structure and Reflection46:36 - Tools, Not Rules47:52 - Witnessing vs. Aspiring50:19 - Wrap-Up & Sign-Off

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Progress doesn't always look the way we expect it to. Sometimes it's 20 minutes on an exercise bike instead of 30. And, sometimes it's eating dinner at the table instead of the couch. Laura and Keith explore how small, intentional shifts in our daily habits compound into real, lasting change.

The episode draws from James Clear's Atomic Habits and the concept of the aggregation of marginal gains, made famous by British cycling coach Dave Brailsford. The idea is simple: get 1% better at the things that matter most, and over 365 days, you become 37 times better than when you started. It sounds small. It is small. That's the point.
Showing Up When It's HardLaura opens the episode with a recurring dream. She's navigating impossible stairs, carrying too many bags, always late, never quite finding privacy. It doesn't take long to connect the dots. She's been working through a serious hip injury, and the vulnerability of being seen limping, moving slower, needing a cane on hard days, has been weighing on her more than she first admitted.
Identity, Environment, and Doing the ThingKeith brings the framework to the conversation — but also the honesty. He reflects on James Clear's reminder that "good habits make time your ally, bad habits make time your enemy," and uses it to challenge himself to be patient with small progress. He nearly chose pizza the night before recording. He chose taco salad instead, and he's down nearly 5 pounds. The result is not from a dramatic overhaul, but from one small food swap, repeated.
Keep Showing UpKeith and Laura are in the middle of it, making real choices, slipping up, and choosing to start again. That's the whole point. You don't need a perfect plan. You need a sustainable one. If this episode resonates with you, subscribe to In Residence with Keith and Laura wherever you listen to podcasts, and visit withkeithandlaura.com to learn more about what Laura and Keith are building.

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Small Steps, Big Change | 1 Percent Better is Enough

00:00 - Intro
01:15 - Laura's recurring dream: navigating impossible stairs
05:38 - Keith connects the dream metaphor to real life
06:37 - Being seen in vulnerability: Laura's hip injury
09:38 - Introducing the 1% Rule: Dave Brailsford and the British cycling team
10:38 - Aggregation of marginal gains explained
11:54 - Why "1% better at everything" can still feel overwhelming
14:10 - The all-or-nothing trap and how to talk yourself out of it
15:01 - James Clear's rule: Don't miss twice in a row
16:07 - Finding your pace and creating accountability without burnout
17:30 - Habits build routines; routines become systems
23:08 - Better at being better: the shadow side of perfectionism
24:07 - Environment design
27:00 - Identity-based habits: actions define who you're becoming
28:25 - Immediate gratification vs. long-term goals
30:31 - Fulfilling commitments to yourself
37:33 - "Good habits make time your ally" — the James Clear wrap-up
42:35 - Outro

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When Laura found out her favorite hometown pizza shop was shutting its doors after 46 years, it wasn't just about the pizza. It was about every birthday party, every date night, every post-game celebration that happened within those walls. That kind of grief can catch you off guard. It points us toward the legacy places and people leave behind.
Letting Go to Move Forward Laura knows she wants to make a difference through her work, her writing, and everything she and Keith are building together. She's learning to trust the process rather than control it. As a self-described planner, she's actively working to loosen her grip and lead more from intuition. Laura draws a meaningful thread between the legacy of that pizza place and the question she's sitting with personally: Does intentionality have to be mapped out in advance, or can it grow from simply showing up well?
Building Something That Means MoreKeith frames legacy not as ambition, but as accountability. His touchstone is simple: leave the campsite better than you found it. He's not interested in having his name on a building. He's interested in creating spaces where people feel known. Like the Irish pub they loved, where the server already knew their order before they sat down; that kind of connection doesn't happen by accident. It takes intentionality to build, and awareness to protect.
The Real Measure of ImpactPeople won't always remember what you sold or what you built, but they often remember how you made them feel. Be present, be purposeful, and keep investing in the people and spaces around you. Because, when the backdrop changes, what endures is the community you helped create. Community isn't a trend. It's the through-line from past to present to future.
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Legacy Writes Itself | Build with Purpose & Intent

00:00 - Intro
00:31 - Beloved hometown pizza place closing
04:07 - Places that shaped us: arcades, video rentals, and community staples
05:50 - What makes local businesses last
07:21 - Connecting nostalgia to the question of personal legacy
13:14 - Do you need a plan to make an impact?
18:36 - The grief of losing a community space
20:25 - Going with the flow vs. needing control
22:14 - Navigating uncertainty and impact together
25:45 - Community, connection, and why it matters more than ever
26:38 - Gary Vee AI vs. Analog
36:01 - Quote cards: Malcolm Forbes & Seneca
36:54 - Outro

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Change doesn't wait, it shows up like April snow. Sometimes forecasted, sometimes not, and your response reveals more than you think. Why does change feel hard? And, what tools actually help you embrace the disruptions and discomforts that come with leaning into growth?
Weather ReportKeith opens with a disarmingly simple insight. Knowing change is coming, changes how you handle it. When he checked the forecast and saw snow, waking up to a white yard felt like a non-event. But the cancellation of a tennis match he was genuinely excited about? That one stung. The difference wasn't the change itself; it was the expectation.

He takes that further with a journaling reflection: Are you singing in the rain, or are you stubbornly swinging a golf club in a lightning storm? Knowing which situation you're actually in, is a skill worth developing. Keith’s practical prescription: lean into curiosity over resistance, build a "rainy day kit" of trusted people and honest reflection, and remember the weather is always going to change.
Framework that Closes the GapLaura brings structure to the conversation through Prosci's ADKAR model—a change management framework built around five sequential stages: Awareness, Desire, Knowledge, Ability, and Reinforcement. Her insight is that people often fail at change not because they lack information, but because they haven't yet found a personal reason to want it.

She illustrates this through her own journey cutting back on caffeine. She had the knowledge for years, but desire didn't arrive until her body gave her a signal she couldn't ignore. The lesson applies to every area of life: if you're stuck, ask yourself which step of ADKAR is actually missing.

Laura also reframes the AI conversation that's dominating every professional space right now. Rather than fear or hype, her advice is simple: start with what's free, use it for something small and real, and protect your personal data along the way.
What's in Your ControlThe conversation closes with something unexpectedly personal. Keith’s quiet reckoning with his kids growing up and Laura's candid reflections on navigating menopause. The through-line is this: some changes you choose, and some choose you. For both, the path forward starts with naming what's actually within your control, building a support system, and staying curious enough to keep moving.
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Navigating Change Without Losing Your Way

00:00 - Intro00:46 - April snow and unexpected change 06:13 - Who Moved My Cheese?10:31 - ADKAR Model (Prosci) 16:03 - How desire for change finally arrives21:12 - Waiting for pain to motivate change?25:15 - AI is everywhere, and it's not slowing down36:14 - Where to start with AI41:03 - Building your "rainy day kit" for navigating disruption45:01 - Navigating change you didn't choose48:51 - Outro
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Imposter syndrome has a way of finding you no matter how far you've come. Keith and Laura revisit a topic they first explored back in 2023. Two years later, the feelings are back. And this time, the conversation goes deeper.

The "Who Am I?" MonsterAfter spending several long drives through Wisconsin listening to podcasts by Gary Vee, Ethan Suplee, and Amy Poehler, Laura found herself doing something she didn't expect: comparing herself to them and feeling like she didn't measure up.

What struck her wasn't that she wanted to be them, but that she started feeling like she couldn't justify doing what she does without their level of credentials or platform. The "who am I?" voice got louder. And she recognized it immediately, because she'd been there before.

Earlier in her career, Laura navigated imposter syndrome by becoming undeniable. She put in extraordinary hours as a Dean of Institutional Research while pursuing her PhD, and building expertise that silenced the doubt. But that drive came at a cost. There were kid’s first day of school pictures captured in the dark after a 15-hour workday and other school programs missed. Trying to be the expert and the superhuman eventually caught up with her.
Accepting the ImperfectionKeith approaches imposter syndrome from a different angle. He's made peace with the idea that self-doubt around the things you care most about is probably never going away and that's not a bad thing. What matters is what you do with it.

For Keith, the instinct when self-doubt hits is to withdraw, hide, or avoid. He names this honestly and says the work is in recognizing that signal and choosing to lean in instead. He's even kept early podcast moments like a recording where he openly said he didn't think what they were doing was good enough, precisely because that kind of authenticity is the point.

He pushes back gently on the idea of "pushing through" imposter syndrome, noting that some people are carrying much heavier loads, and relentless pushing leads to the same burnout Laura described. The better path, he says, is to move with grace, patience, and mindfulness and to get clear on what truly matters. When you know what matters, the things that trigger doubt lose their grip.

"Why Not Us.”If you're in a season where the "who am I?" voice is getting louder, this episode is for you. Laura is learning to ask "why not us?" It's a small shift with a significant impact. No need to reach the top of the mountain and look down. She wants to be on the journey with people. And that, she says, is exactly what this podcast is about. Imposter syndrome may not disappear, but it doesn't have to stop us either. Instead of asking "who am I to do this?”we can start saying, “Why not us.”

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From "Who Am I?" to "Why Not Us?” | Reframing Imposter Syndrome

00:00 - Intro03:24 - Who am I to do this? The comparison trigger04:11 - Revisiting imposter syndrome10:03 - Working hard to become undeniable11:31 - You don't need to be an expert to show up15:41 - Lean in vs. withdraw: how to handle the signal23:22 - Why not me? Why not us?24:29 - The parent tension: career, family, and identity31:08 - Labels are for awareness, not identity32:04 - Accepting imperfection as a path forward35:43 - Letting the "who am I" monster get smaller36:31 - You are a unicorn — your story matters37:08 - Outro

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The conversation is sparked by something real and immediate: the kids are approaching college age. Child 1 just took the ACT and got his first recruitment email. Child 2 is right behind him. Keith and Laura sit down together in the studio to talk about the lessons their college years left behind. College has a way of shaping you in ways you don't fully appreciate until years later. Some of Keith’s favorite lessons weren’t written in any syllabus.

Finding the Energy & EffortKeith went to college because it was what people like him were supposed to do. His parents hadn't gone, he was told he was smart, and that was enough of a reason. He worked evenings throughout most of his college years, was off-campus from noon to 9pm most days, and spent a long time afterward feeling like he'd squandered the experience—like he'd missed out on some opportunities.

Looking back with what he calls "a father's eyes," he recognizes that graduating in spite of his circumstances was an accomplishment, not a failure. He also shares two pivotal lessons from his music advisor, Mr. Roy: first, don't exert maximum effort when it’s not required. Protect your energy for where it matters. Second, you have to know the rules before you can break them. Both of these lessons reshaped how Keith approaches work, creativity, and growth to this day.

When Plans Change, Trust the PivotLaura had a major declared, a career path in mind, and a clear sense of direction—until she didn't. A pivotal advisor opened a door she hadn't known existed, and she pivoted entirely. Far from seeing that as a failure, she views it as one of the best things that ever happened to her. The ability to make a new plan when the old one stops fitting is a skill in itself.

Laura also reflects on the difference between compliance and passion. In her own composition class with Mr. Roy, she followed every rule and he sent her work back anyway, asking for more. Simply checking the box, she realizes, produces something technically sound but uninspired. 

Curiosity and Courage Together, Keith and Laura aren't trying to map out their kids' futures. They want to instill curiosity, the courage to explore, and the confidence to keep moving even when the destination isn't clear yet. They want their kids to feel the pull toward adulthood not the pressure of being pushed into it.

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Passions, Pivots, Regrets and Reframes | College Ruled

00:00 - Welcome Back to In Residence
01:11 - Child 1 Takes the ACT
02:43 - A Place of Self-Discovery
03:44 - "People Like Me Should Go to College"
04:12 - Squandered Experience
11:33 - Parenting Teens Headed to College
14:16 - A Pivotal Mentor
17:31 - Great Connections
20:16 - “Put Your Energy Where It Counts”
25:38 - “Know the Rules Before You Break Them”
26:32 - Passion and Suffering
28:22 - Composition 
34:20 - The Pull vs. Pushed 
40:08 - How Keith and Laura Actually Met
46:28 - Leveling Up in What You Care About
48:13 - Outro
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Sometimes Keith and Laura’s best conversations don't start with an agenda. Recording from a distance, they pulled affirmation and quote cards and let the words do the leading. What followed was a refreshing conversations that moved from fear and imposter syndrome to minimalism, resilience, identity, and the courage to simply begin.
Fear Is Not a Stop SignLaura's thread through this episode is deeply personal and immediately relatable. She draws the Carrie Fisher quote: ”Stay afraid, but do it anyway” and connects it directly to her ongoing struggle with writing. The voice in her head that says you're not a writer is loud, but she's learning to move alongside it rather than wait for it to disappear.She also draws "You have everything you need right now", and takes it in two directions: a practical one (she spent the week decluttering their pantry and bathroom) and an emotional one. Laura reflects on how rich their family of four already is— not in spite of the distance, but because of how intentionally they stay connected. Her closing card, a Lin-Manuel Miranda quote: ”Just start. Nothing is insurmountable"  lands as both a personal reminder and a challenge to anyone sitting on an idea that still feels too big to touch.
Reframe the Hardships, Trust the JourneyKeith pulls the Tom Gregory quote on childlike wonder and reminds listeners how easy it is to let curiosity slip through the cracks of a busy week and how much is gained by pulling it back. He draws the Arnold Palmer quote about the most rewarding things looking impossible, and offers a perspective shift: look back at every hard thing you've already survived. That track record is evidence you can handle what's ahead.Keith also brings an honest self-awareness to the conversation about patience and action. He acknowledges that wanting something isn't the same as working for it  and admits he sometimes uses "waiting for the right tools" as an excuse not to start. The challenge: stop making excuses and give yourself the opportunity to act.

Dare to Be YourselfGrowth doesn't always look like a big leap; sometimes it looks like a card falling out of a deck and making you stop long enough to listen. Whether you're working through fear, rediscovering your curiosity, or finally ready to start something you've been putting off, Keith and Laura's conversation is a reminder that you already have what it takes.
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Shuffle Up and Deal | You Have What it Takes

00:00 - Intro01:10 - "Don't Be Afraid to Be Amazing"01:31 - "Crush Your Goals"02:30 - Childlike Wonder03:36 -"Stay Afraid, But Do It Anyway"05:03 - Keith Reflects: Getting Comfortable with Uncertainty06:14 - "The Most Rewarding Things Look Like They Cannot Be Done" 08:46 - “Take All Your Shots"11:52 -"Dare to Be Yourself" 14:13 - “You Have Everything You Need Right Now"15:38 - Laura on Minimalism18:04 - The "Core Four”20:12 - "All Appears to Change When We Change" 27:22 - "Just Start — Nothing Is Insurmountable"31:05 - Wrap Up and Sign Off
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