In the second episode of the In The Zone podcast, titled "Getting in the Zone," Dr. Mark Crear is joined by guest Richard Herron, the owner of Construction Concern. Drawing on Haran’s 43 years of experience as a general contractor, the episode explores the practical application of discipline, focus, and leadership to move from simply "finding" the zone to actually entering it.

The race is not given to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, but to those who endure to the end.