In this episode of The Soldier Fund Podcast, Ben Derrick sits down with Jordan Jones for a candid response to the Netflix documentary In Waves and War and the conversation it has sparked inside the Special Operations community. Together, they explore why the film resonates so deeply with operators—and why awareness alone is not enough.

Drawing from lived experience, the conversation exposes the hidden costs of repeated deployments, combat exposure, and the long transition between war and home. Jordan speaks openly about identity loss, family strain, unresolved trauma, and the internal conflicts many operators carry long after service. The episode challenges civilian assumptions about what “coming home” actually looks like and highlights how linear narratives fail to capture the reality of post-service life.

The discussion also addresses the growing attention around psychedelic-assisted therapies, including ibogaine. While acknowledging their potential, Ben and Jordan caution against viewing them as standalone solutions, emphasizing the need for continued care, community, and sustainable lifestyle change.

Ultimately, this episode calls for a more comprehensive approach to soldier wellness—one that moves beyond symptom management and toward long-term resilience, purpose, and support. It’s an invitation for soldiers to know they’re not alone, and for civilians to engage with deeper understanding and responsibility. To learn more about our mission and support these elite citizen

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