Nathan & Ben interview Author and Theologian Brad Jersak about his two new books: "A more Christlike Way" and "IN: Incarnation & Inclusion, Abba & Lamb". In it we have a great converstaion that covers the Cross as the centerpiece of space & time, how tough love really is, and just how wide is God's inclusion of all people.

Find out more about Brad's work at bradjersak.com

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