Hi listeners! We are back and chatting about Magic Systems. Hard, soft, and in-between, these are the rules of magic in a given franchise. Join us as we discuss A Court of Thorns and Roses by Sarah J. Maas, Uprooted by Naomi Novik, The Wheel of Time Series by Robert Jordan/Brandon Sanderson, Carry On by Rainbow Rowell, Avatar: the Last Airbender, and even a little Star Wars and Star Trek!

Then, enjoy our random recs: Hacks & Psycho Goreman!

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