In this episode of the Energy Tech Podcast, recorded live at ENTELEC 2026, we sit down with William Behn from Neeve to break down one of the most important shifts happening in industrial tech:

👉 The collapse of the traditional OT architecture — and the rise of Industrial SASE.

As IT/OT convergence accelerates, legacy models like Purdue are being challenged by modern needs for data mobility, security, and scalability.

We dive into:

Why 30 years of OT architecture is being torn down

The reality of IT vs OT convergence (it’s cultural, not technical)

What Industrial SASE actually means for oil & gas and manufacturing

How to eliminate network sprawl (VPNs, jump boxes, unmanaged switches)

The role of Unified Namespace (UNS) + MQTT

Why data needs to move freely — but securely

How edge computing + zero trust are reshaping industrial systems

The impact of AI agents on OT infrastructure

This is a must-watch for leaders trying to modernize operations without compromising security.

🎧 If you're building the future of control rooms, SCADA, or industrial data platforms — this episode will change how you think.

⏱️ Chapters

00:00 – Intro: Live from ENTELEC 2026

00:40 – Meet William Behn (Neeve)

01:30 – First Impressions of ENTELEC

02:30 – The “Cyber Problem, No Solutions” Reality

04:00 – Why Cybersecurity Feels Like “Vanilla Advice”

05:30 – IT vs OT Convergence: What’s Really Happening

06:30 – Cultural Shift Between IT and OT

07:30 – The Pilot Analogy (C5 vs F16) Explained

09:00 – OT = Availability, IT = Security

10:30 – The Problem with IT Tools in OT

11:30 – The End of OT “Sprawl” Architecture

12:30 – Why Purdue Model Is Losing Its Grip

13:30 – Introduction to Industrial SASE

15:00 – How Enterprise IT Solved This 15 Years Ago

16:00 – Bringing SASE to OT

17:00 – UNS + SASE: How They Work Together

18:00 – Data Flow: Edge → Broker → Business

19:00 – Multi-Cloud, Security & Flexibility

20:30 – Containerization & Edge Compute

21:30 – Zero Trust (Including AI Agents)

22:30 – Future-Proofing Industrial Systems

24:00 – The “Tearing Down 30 Years” Moment

25:00 – Outro & Final Thoughts

Presented by Opsite Energy: www.opsitenergy.com

Music: Uygar Duzgun / “Fast Life” courtesy of www.epidemicsound.com