Thanks to my guests!  Jane Bach (songwriter and educator) (https://www.janebach.com/) her husband Gary, Daniel Fabbri (informatics) and Shannon Rich (twitter star!) 

This episode, we get into the opportunities and challenges that arise when a computer scientist wants to change health care using machine learning, novel technologies, and "obvious" improvements, but is confronted by the realities of what patients want, what they believe, and what they understand.  Lots of food for thought here, coupled with some great bonding through song!

Thank you, Gary, for letting us get a little personal with his story, and allowing us to frame a complicated topic with a real-world example.  You guys were amazing!