This is a long (2.5 hour) interview that happened last month, that I’d like to share. I enjoyed this interview as covered lots of ground, and I was asked some good questions from the group. We talked about my background and my current research writing, New Zealand society in general and specific comparisons in the covid era policies, particularly with the UK because Stephen Frost (founder of the DfME) is based in Wales.

I also mention topics like NZ’s Tall Poppy Syndrome and Jacinda Ardern’s ‘leadership’ exploiting that propaganda of ‘be kind’ to coerce Kiwis to comply with the medical tyranny.

Please use the ‘search’ function on my Substack for topics of interest that I mention in this interview - I have written a lot!

I’ll be posting some clips of this too. Many thanks for any feedback or comments or follow-up questions. Thanks for your support!

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I didn’t know that Michael Gray Griffith was also a Pom, but has been in the Southern Hemisphere much longer than me. It was good to share some experiences and ideas. Here are the details of some of the things we talked about:

The published research about the Corporate Playbook, including the academic work of (also a Pom) Australian Emeritus Professor Brian Martin. For instance, how people are deliberately censored and defamed if they are counter-narrative…

Then we talked about Nurses Collective (Previously Nurses for Freedom) and NZ Teachers Speaking Out with Science (NZTSOS) and a report for each that I co-authored, that we submitted to the NZ Royal Commission Covid Inquiry. We agreed that these were an international whitewash, but nevertheless, how important it is to get this evidence on the public record. You can read extracts from those reports (and download the whole documents) on my Substack, here and here. You can also listen/watch a Podcast where Nurses Collective NZ Founder, Deb Cunliffe talks with me about her experiences of the covid era.

We agreed that physical books are the future and Michael has a new book out that is a collection of essays exactly for that reason. I look forward to reading it!

On the topic of books, we talked about various books describing the pre-WW2 era and what Mattias Desmet describes as the Mass Formation, including Hannah Arendt’s books on totalitarianism. If you’re interested in this topic, I highly recommend reading Victor Klemperer’s published diaries about Nazi Germany in the 1930’s - that I wrote about here:

We talked about Jacinda’s roles post-covid and her current ‘performance’, including the latest cringeworthy movie about her.

We also talked about practical ways to avoid the DigitalID, for instance the workshops I provide, that provide ideas for strategies to help us address our addiction to phones, and others around us too. For my workshops, I draw on the work of Catherine Price for instance:

(If you want me to run a (online or face-to-face) short workshop for you, please get in touch!)

Another really helpful resource I mentioned is Reaching People which provides insights into some of the behavioural science “Nudges” that have been on us, and ways to break through the propaganda to help others see the Elephant in the Room:

I have written extensively about these Nudges, for instance here:

Connected to this, Michael and I also talked about the ‘religion’ (cult?) that forms this strong belief in ‘vaccines’ - and how to overcome it. I haven’t read it yet, but US lawyer Aaron Siri has recently published a new book about this subject called Vaccines Amen.

Finally, Michael asked me about the Charlie Kirk incident. I leave that subject for reader’s own thoughts!

Hope you enjoy listening to us chat. Michael is a skilled interviewer and I look forward to talking with him again. Please help share his channels and support his work on his various platforms, eg Rumble. We are all (still) continually censored and shadow-banned.

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This is a conversation (1 hour) we recorded recently (July 2025) for a specific purpose (more on that another day) and a Ping to Thinking Coalition!

Deb and I decided to share it here because it’s increasingly relevant to those people just becoming aware of the fraud and corruption. We need to reflect together on what happened to us five years ago. As our healthcare systems collapse under the heavy weight from staff shortages, lack of facilities, gaslighting and patients’ complex needs, these issues are front of mind.

Here’s a brief summary of our discussion:

First 15 mins - Background to Deb’s nursing career (she’s a Pom like me), including caring for children with Diabetes. Deb’s experience of the NZ context and Tall Poppy Syndrome. What factors helped Deb ‘wake up’ to the covid fraud and what did she do about it?

15 - 25 mins - Setting-up the nurses group ‘Nurses for Freedom’ - now called The Nurses Collective NZ - including witnessing what was happening simultaneously overseas eg in the UK during the policy of Covid Vaccine Mandates. Protests and activism and censorship.

21 -26 mins - Deb mentions her interviews by NZ media, for instance The Platform (paywalled) and this article from NewsHub (open access) Current situation in NZ with widespread lack of trust in the healthcare system.

26 - 30 mins - NZ Nursing Unions (NZNO is the main one) and the role they played in the silencing of dissent, coercion and propaganda. Also what hope is there from any outcomes from the NZ Royal Commission of Inquiry into Covid?

30 - 35 mins - Nurses who were coerced into taking the injection, without informed consent, including tragic stories of those individuals who suffered adverse reactions. The losses nurses suffered from compliance AND non-compliance.

36 - 40 mins - The ‘vaccine’ mandate ‘exemptions: who qualified and what happened to those who applied? (I’ve written about this topic extensively, here and here.)

40 - 45 mins - Who are The Nurses Collective NZ and what is happening now? What are Deb’s and members’ current situations and future plans?

46 - 50 mins - The ongoing enormous negative social impact as a result of the covid era policies, the lack of acknowledgement of the harms.

50 - end - How Deb feels about the NZ politicians who applied the ‘No Jab, No Job’ mandates and the Covid Inquiry. What would happen if the same policies were applied again today?

In conclusion: “We tried! We stood up and we did make a difference.” Thank you Deb and The Nurses Collective members for Holding The Line!

You can download and read the whole (or just an extract) from the research report that Deborah and I co-authored for The Nurses Collective NZ’s Submission to the Royal Commission into the Covid Response Government ‘Inquiry’ here:

You can connect with the Nurses Collective NZ on Facebook or Telegram (members are vetted). Or contact me privately for more information. Thank you!

My own submission to the Covid Inquiry is here.

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* Get independent TRUTH out there….

1: Safe & Effective? Close monitoring of the jab safety and efficacy was maintained by Government. The injectable prevented transmission, stayed in your arm before being destroyed: it did NOT change your DNA.

2: There’s ‘outsized’ (strange choice of word) fear about side effects (of the jab): Mild side-effects are apparently ‘normal’ and a sign your body is building immunity. Covid is ‘more likely’ to cause myocarditis than the jab. “Long term side effects of the jab are NOT A THING.”

3: The jabs are recommended at any stage of pregnancy or trying to conceive. Even those with compromised immune systems ‘have some benefit’ from the jabs.

“Brought you by Pfizers!”

“For an example […] at the Parakiore Recreation and Sport [Metro] Centre there is a a tremendously large and complex network of sensors built into the design of that building. What we could be doing in parallel [with the build] is starting to think about what data it might be produced and how that data might be used in order to…not just to make the facility perform better, but to influence all sorts of other things…”

This three-min clip (thanks to Michael Ginsburg for the tech help!) comes from this webinar from the global Smart Cities Council NZ branch, where, at 42 mins in, Keri Niven, Digital Practice Lead at Aurecon talks about the project her company is involved with, building the new sports centre in Christchurch, NZ.

Heads-up to Deconstructing 4IR Narratives & CityWatchNZ

I was very pleased to be invited onto the wonderful, enthusiastic, independent journalist, Sonia Poulton’s show - which was late night here, breakfast time in the UK. Sonia with morning coffee, cocoa for me, we chatted about the significance of the 3rd ARC Conference, as it drew to a close in London this week. We discussed who some of the speakers were, how ARC is funded via impact investment banks, and what other enterprises Legatum are involved with internationally, eg Gates’exploitation of African communities. Below is the work-in-progress graphic that helps with understanding what we talked about (you’ll see ARC labelled to the left of the bottom segment ‘Media/religion/politics’):

New subscribers - welcome! You can read the original ‘Long Read’ article Sonia refers to at the beginning of our conversation below. This includes her report on Jordan Peterson as well as lots of other resources, that Michael Ginsburg and I researched back in 2023 when ARC was launched (as Michael says, this has ‘aged like a fine wine’)!

Want to know more? Here’s a link to the list of numerous other posts I’ve subsequently written about Legatum, and the global tentacles of the impact investment empire it has developed:

There is much, much more to come on this. The rabbit holes are extremely deep. Meanwhile, you can follow Sonia on all the major platforms, including X and her YouTube channel and website here. I hope to talk with her again about this and other related subjects.

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Here’s a light-hearted half-an-hour ‘undisciplined conversation’ that Dr Cliff Saunders and I recorded recently. We didn’t have any agenda in mind. We talk regularly online, reminiscing about Old Blighty and sharing our ‘Stories from Trenches (of WW3)’ - the funny anecdotes and experiences we need to help us cope with the covid era craziness.

In this unscripted, adhoc natter, we talk about:

* Creativity in this new era - writing and the importance of hand-writing and the metaphor of woodworking and stone-carving skills…

* Being present with a surprise present…

* the strategies of waking-up ‘oh-so-busy’ academics who are still in the mass-formation. See reachingpeople.net for examples

* Cliff is optimistic about ‘White Mole’s like Agent Jenkins from NZSIS, who we assume to be constantly listening-in to all our conversations and reading all our rants (like this one) [“Hi AJ!”]

* Reflections on this (very) short story by author Ursula Le Guinn, called ‘The Ones Who Walked Away’ which has a theme that is very relevant for these times of indoctrination ‘For the Greater Good’:

* the ‘independent Aotearoa Research Ethics Committee’ experiences and why should give up ‘trying to breathe life into the corpse’ that is academia.

* Trump and the false belief of a saviour. Instead ‘Take it Back! meaning, stop outsourcing our brains. The only person who is going to save me, is me!

* The comedian woman I mention is Sarah Millican who I wrote about seeing in person here. And that sparked a reference to UK Column’s Substack campaign #ScrapTheApp which I fully support and wrote about with regard to the hideous data-harvesting NZ versions of the NHS App in two parts, here and here.

* We have all been inoculated against this violence. No-one can fool us again!

Enjoy this impromptu recording! Who knows, we may record another of our weekly chats if this seems like a good idea. Suggestions for topics very welcome!

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