This episode concludes a two-part discussion about Initiations, Invitations & Epiphanies. Deborah shares her deeply personal story about her experiences with grief and loss as an initiation and that, although painful, holds the promise of hope within them if we can pay attention to the messages, synchronicities and signs that surround these events. The conversation shifts to the possibilities that the path of joy can also be a very powerful initiation into a new way of seeing ourselves and our place in the world and is able to lead us across those thresholds that grief may hold sway over.