This episode was recorded by Packaging Europe. 
An issue that is often overlooked in discussions about packaging sustainability and sourcing recyclates is social injustice - and with it human rights abuses. Alina Marm is not only head of global sustainability and circular economy at Siegwerk, but also a PhD researcher at the University College London, and she has been looking into this issue in-depth as part of her doctorate. She discusses challenges and possible steps to address the problem with Elisabeth Skoda.