Our first podcast recorded live at Disruptive Futures at SXSW is now out in the world. This episode asks: how do we innovate in Nervous Systems – in a state of constant crisis - human, organisational, societal – when the world feels like a rolling state of change?

Our own Tom Morgan is joined by Emily Dent and Joe Spence, two innovation and organisational change gurus, for a wide-ranging conversation on innovation, systems thinking, leadership and creativity in the face of uncertainty.