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 Trade just got harder, faster, and far more granular—and we’re on the hook to make it work at the border. With a surge of White House trade actions and hundreds of new tariff lines, the old duty math has evolved into a puzzle of components, end uses, and origin rules that demand proof down to where raw materials were pulled from the ground. We walk through how our teams turn policy into action, adjusting systems, issuing guidance, and enforcing at ports while keeping legitimate commerce moving at the speed of electrons.

 Featuring:

• Brandon Lord, Executive Director, Office of Trade Policy & Programs, CBP
• Eric Choy, Executive Director, Trade Remedy Law Enforcement, Office of Trade, CBP 
• C. Shane Campbell, Executive Director (Acting), Cargo and Conveyance Security, Office of Field Operations, CBP
• Brenda Smith, Former EAC for Trade, CBP (moderator)

 This discussion took place December 12, 2025 at 8th Annual Homeland Security & Defense Forum Border Security Symposium

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