In this episode of After The Last Pair, I sit down with Hugh Smith, President of the FITASC Referee Committee and a well-known figure on the international FITASC scene.We get into what really goes on behind the scenes at major competitions, from the pressure on referees to the small details that most shooters never see.Hugh talks about how he first got started in shooting, how he moved into refereeing, and what it takes to progress from regional events through to national and international referee roles.We also discuss what makes a good referee, how difficult calls are handled, and some of the little tricks shooters may try when they are looking for an edge.In this episode we cover:* Hugh’s background in shooting and refereeing* Behind the scenes at major FITASC competitions* What makes a good referee* How referees handle pressure and difficult calls* The tricks shooters use to bend the rules* Moving from regional to national and international refereeing* How someone can get started as a referee* Why referees are so important to the future of the sportA really interesting look at the sport from the other side of the stand, with someone who has spent years at the heart of international FITASC.After The Last Pair is the clay shooting podcast where the real conversations happen once the shooting is done.