Chris and Jayson are back with a holiday episode that’s part reflection, part ramble, and entirely unscripted. We dig into the usual Christmas chaos—family traditions, wrapping disasters, and a whole lot of sarcasm.

Somewhere in there, we also manage to talk about the future of the podcast, plans for technician-focused workshops, and what 2025 might look like for the integration industry.

If you’re in the mood for something easy to listen to while dodging family obligations or gift-wrapping duties, we’ve got you covered.