What is presidential greatness? Does it even exist? Kirby and Todd sit down with Texas A&M former student and co-director of the Presidential Greatness Project, Justin Vaughn, to explore patterns among highly rated presidents and the power of their terms. The hosts pose the question: what makes a president “great?” Vaughn shares his research, noting that the consensus is evolving. While a “great” presidential run has traditionally been marked by policy change and broad impact, there is a growing emphasis on a president’s commitment to democratic norms and honorable leadership. Later, the group discusses the unique pressures and obstacles presidents face, and how those factors shape their reputation. Vaughn says a clear indicator of presidential greatness is whether or not the presidential successor is willing to embrace and build upon the legacy left behind.

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