In this week’s podcast episode, we sit down with Skewb's new People and Transformation Director, Joe Parkes, for an honest conversation about what it really takes to lead people through change. Joe shares the unexpected journey that took him from aspiring lawyer to HR leader, the early experiences that shaped his views on transformation, and why real‑world learning matters just as much as theory.

From navigating complex organisational change at Network Rail to developing resilience through the adoption process, Joe opens up about the moments that strengthened his belief in empathy, balance and listening as core leadership skills. If you want to understand the human side of transformation - and what people‑first leadership looks like in practice - this episode is a must‑listen.