The Real Shift: The Real Broker Podcast

Inside the Real Growth Engine: A Deep Dive with Joel Kirsch


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In this episode, Templeton Walker sits down with Joel Kirsch, SVP of Growth at Real Brokerage, to unpack what's driving the fastest-growing brokerage in the nation. Joel shares how Real's platform, culture, and commitment to agent success are reshaping the industry-from indies and large teams to solo agents looking for more value and flexibility. They dive into growth, community, technology, and why so many leaders are making the move. If you're curious about the real reasons agents stay-and thrive-this episode brings the clarity.


Show Notes:

  • Why the industry's shifting and what's motivating teams, brokers, and agents to explore Real.
  • How Real's platform, tech stack, private label program, and benefits create real value at scale.
  • The role of culture and community-and why it's the #1 reason agents stay long-term.
  • How flexibility, revenue share, stock awards, and operational support unlock growth for indies and large organizations.
  • Joel's perspective on choosing a brokerage based on where you want to go, not just what you get today.


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Co-Host: @heykristencantrell

Co-Host: @Templeton_walker

Guest: @Kirsch_Joel


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