A shorter version of last episode - an Insight episode.

I talked to Michael Wiander, who has managed to get 50000 young people to read his 600+ pages adventure books. And they did not even want to read books. Among writing books, Michael also is a chef, a musician and a chessplayer at elite level. And he calls himself a disaster....

I will give a short glimpse of the last episode, but actually turn his advice and own journey into something the person with persistent pain can think of! But again, everyone can listen to Outsmart the pain. Its not about pain alone.

Merry listening!