In this edition of the Food Systems Podcast, Alex Turk talks to Felipe Ortega Schlingmann from the European Investment Bank (EIB), during an interview at this year's Forum for the Future of Agriculture Annual Conference.  Felipe advocates for a holistic approach to sustainability in farming, starting with profitability and social sustainability in rural areas to make them attractive again, linking this to sustainable farming within planetary boundaries. He explains that traditional approaches need to be complemented by smart, innovative finance mechanisms that blend public and private funds.