In our first chapter with Destan Owens, Jane and Tavi talk to Destan a bit about his background, and the sharp left that took him from business and law aspirations into music and the arts.

In this segment, Tavi and Jane talk with Destan Owens about how impactful his time at Oklahoma University was for him and the profound impact his teachers had on his journey to becoming a professional singer/actor.

In this segment, Destan Owens ruminates on what it means to be an artist and the importance of self-exploration.

In this segment, Destan Owens recounts some of his favorite performance experiences, including an unexpected brush with Meryl Streep and touring with The Who’s Tommy.

In this segment, Destan Owens offers up a little advice for anyone looking to leverage their talents into a meaningful life and career.

In the first segment with Matthew Kilgore, Jane and Tavi learn a little bit about how he gravitated to the arts, tried to escape them with teaching, but got pulled right back in again.

In the second segment with Matthew Kilgore, Tavi and Jane hear about some big decisions and yeses that landed him on Broadway in White Christmas.

In the third segment with Matthew Kilgore, the conversation takes a sharp left and Jane, Matthew and Tavi talk about baking, but then bring it all back together with how cooking and baking can be analogies for how we live our lives.

In the fourth segment with Matthew Kilgore, the conversation focuses on appreciation, and how important it is for all of us to feel seen and acknowledged in our lives.

In the fifth and final segment with Matthew Kilgore, Matthew shares with Jane and Tavi the ways that he has learned to advocate for himself and how we can learn from that to do the same.