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Karen Walker Johnson started her career as a pediatric nurse in Detroit, went on to earn a law degree, and spent decades in managed care before stepping in as interim CEO of March of Dimes. Then she came out of retirement to lead Clever Care Health Plan, a culturally attuned Medicare Advantage plan serving Southern California.
In this episode, Rachel Spilo talks with Karen about the systemic barriers she saw early as a public health nurse, why a nurse goes to law school, what big health plans teach about how change actually happens, and what it took to come back from retirement.
Karen gets specific about blending Eastern and Western benefits in Medicare Advantage, the community centers and member events that put her at a table with members, and the two places she says Clever Care still has work to do: member experience and provider partnership. She closes on leadership development and the legacy she wants to leave.
CHAPTERS 0:00 Show open 0:22 Meet Karen Walker Johnson 0:37 Pediatric nursing and the barriers she saw early 2:48 Why a nurse goes to law school 4:23 From the law firm to managed care 6:31 What big health plans teach about change 9:49 Candy striper to nursing school 11:49 Interim CEO at March of Dimes 15:08 Coming out of retirement for Clever Care 18:28 Eastern and Western medicine in Medicare Advantage 20:59 Cultural competency and the work still to do 24:13 Community centers and member events 28:23 What she wishes she had pushed harder for 30:47 A leader she admires 32:42 Legacy and servant leadership 35:43 Wrap up
ABOUT THE GUEST Karen Walker Johnson is chief executive officer of Clever Care Health Plan, a Medicare Advantage plan that serves Southern California members in their own language. She began her career as a pediatric nurse, earned a law degree, and has held leadership roles across managed care and health systems, including serving as interim CEO of March of Dimes. Clever Care: clevercarehealthplan.com | LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/karen-walker-johnson
ABOUT THE SHOW Inspired and Unfiltered is hosted by Rachel Spilo, featuring candid, no-spin conversations with the people shaping healthcare, business, and leadership.
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Scott Coffin took over Alameda Alliance for Health in 2015 with the plan under state conservatorship, quality scores third-lowest in California, and physicians waiting on backlogged claims. His team exited conservatorship six months ahead of schedule.
In this episode, Rachel Spilo talks with Scott about what that turnaround actually took, why sprinting works as a crisis strategy and fails as an operating model, and the work he picked up after a retirement that did not stick.
Scott is the founder and CEO of Serrano Advisors, formed in 2023, now supporting close to half of California's counties on justice-involved reentry: county jails, probation departments, county behavioral health agencies, and managed care plans. He walks through the decades-old inmate exclusion that kept Medicaid and correctional health on separate tracks, what the 1115 demonstration waiver opened up, and the two lessons other states keep learning the hard way.
Also in this one: where AI genuinely helps versus where the hype falls apart, what 30 icons on a desktop tells you about your operations, and a Final Five that lands on koala bears, a winery, and beekeeping.
CHAPTERS 0:00 Welcome and who is Scott Coffin 0:45 Walking into a plan under state conservatorship 1:26 The hardest realities: quality scores and claims backlogs 2:23 What outsiders misunderstand about public health plans 4:12 Growing up on the border, and starting out in claims 5:30 What pulled him toward leadership 6:49 Sprinting is a crisis strategy, not an operating model 8:13 The decisions that stabilized the organization 10:02 Out six months early, and handing off to Matt Woodruff 10:37 The retirement that did not stick 11:02 Why justice-involved reentry 12:29 Building Serrano Advisors 13:57 Why the release window decides outcomes 16:19 Social determinants as the anchor of reentry 19:14 The inmate exclusion, and what the waiver changed 20:42 Lessons other states should take now 23:41 AI: genuinely useful versus overhyped 26:02 What leaders should watch for when adopting new tools 27:00 Advice for executives taking on a turnaround 27:54 The payer leaders he admires 28:49 Advice for anyone considering the entrepreneurial path 30:57 What's next 31:31 The Inspired and Unscripted Final Five 34:11 Bees, third graders, and a proper goodbye
ABOUT THE GUEST Scott Coffin is the founder and CEO of Serrano Advisors, which supports county agencies and health plans on justice-involved reentry and coordinated care. He served as CEO of Alameda Alliance for Health from 2015 to 2023, leading the plan out of state conservatorship and into local control. Before that he was Executive Director for Anthem Blue Cross, overseeing Medi-Cal across 18 Northern California counties. He is a graduate of the Tuck School of Business at Dartmouth.
ABOUT THE SHOW Inspired and Unfiltered is hosted by Rachel Spilo, featuring candid, no-spin conversations with the people shaping healthcare, business, and leadership.
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Healthcare policy veteran John Gorman (Founder, Gorman Health Group) shares the personal story behind his commitment to health equity, his path from Congressman John Conyers' office to launching CMS's first Office of Managed Care, and the leadership lesson that cost him $40 million. Plus: the state of Medicare Advantage, the pressure on mid-market health plans, and the Inspired and Unscripted Final Five.
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