In this episode, we share a provocative, brilliant masterclass on why releasing control and abandoning rigid goals are the true keys to organizational transformation.

Our guest is Rodney Evans, a pioneer in adaptive organization design and the Steward (CEO) of The Ready. Known for her clarity, candor, and precision, Rodney helps leaders shed outdated mental models to build organizations that are coherent, humane, and ready for what’s next. She focuses on intervening where it matters most—using behavioral economics to redesign everyday work rather than trying to change "hearts and minds."

In this conversation, we explore:

• 🎯 Stop over-indexing on the end state: Why fixating on rigid future goals stifles creativity and sets us up for frustration.
• 🤝 The liberating power of Stewardship: Why leadership is lonely and isolating, while stewardship is a shared "team sport."
• 🧠 Behavioral economics over "hearts and minds": Why trying to change culture directly is a trap, and how tweaking processes nudges unconscious behavior.
• 🔀 Where to start your transformation: Why you should tackle cross-functional problems first, where no one has "home court advantage."

This conversation should leave your brain firing. Rodney has an incredible ability to cut through the expected and institutional with absolute precision. We think you'll love her insights on how to intervene where it matters most and allow your team to be fueled by surprise.

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