John Hartung has been teaching about the integration of EMDR and alternative therapies for decades. He published his book,  Energy Psychology and EMDR: Combining Forces to Optimize Treatment, in 2003. In this interview with Rotem Brayer, John teaches us how to use restricted breathing as an EMDR target, and how to help clients notice their breath while doing EMDR work. John explains the importance of coherent breathing, and how to teach clients to improve heart coherence.