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In this thought-provoking and deeply personal episode, Siobhan and Lee dive into the power of understanding intentions behind actions, sparked by a heated debate Siobhan had at a bar—yes, even about something as extreme as becoming a Nazi. Lee emphasizes the importance of having difficult conversations to foster growth and deeper understanding, even when emotions run high.

The conversation takes a personal turn as Lee opens up about her own struggles, including a traumatic break-in and the loss of a close friend, and how therapy and exercise have become vital tools in managing anxiety and depression. Together, they explore the challenge of balancing work, personal life, and mental health, while also finding ways to reclaim joy and creativity.

Siobhan shares her admiration for Lee’s vibrant, artistic spirit, encouraging her to return to burlesque and creative expression. They also discuss Siobhan’s experience with the judicial system, her time in the courtroom, and why she’s fascinated by the process of justice and impartiality.

Of course, it wouldn’t be a Ducking Realitea episode without some unexpected turns—like the importance of bidets and bathroom conveniences, because self-care takes many forms! Plus, Lee gives us a glimpse into her Etsy jewelry business, “Lee Evil Design,” and her plans to expand.

It’s a mix of deep, raw truths and lighthearted moments—because life is both. Press play and join the conversation. 🎙️✨

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