We’re back, baby! In this episode, we have a poolside chat with Vern Cisney, the Chair of Interdisciplinary Studies at Gettysburg College. This is a spicy one! We discuss why an Independent Major might actually get you a job; Ian and Vern fix the “crisis in the humanities”; Kurt waxes fondly on his love of creative writing; and we figure out which philosopher/natural philosopher is Ringo. Our guest even coins a hot new fashion phrase. Finally, we end things with a hedonistic cocktail and cigar.