In this podcast, we discuss the notion of disinterestedness within Doctors Without Borders (MSF). This podcast reveals three gradations of interest: first, interestedness, the gradation where individual material and symbolic rewards are recognised by the individuals, then, disinterestedness, second gradation where the rewards are a priori collective but also, in an indirect way and in different forms, individual, and finally indifference, third gradation where individuals have no judgement.