SURPRISE! We're dropping a hot new pod as we leave for our first international trip since the pandemic, and couldn't keep from recording a slightly different kind of episode today.

No vices. Not much career talk, and mostly just spilling our guts about our relationship with money over time, personal finance, and things we've learned that we would love to share about trying to be more in control of our money and not the other way around. 

We'll be back in June with our normal podcast schedule!