Maintaining internal security and law & order is the core responsibility of the state. How has the Indian state approached this objective? How has India’s state capacity matured in tackling internal security challenges? This week on Puliyabaazi, two brilliant political scientists Devesh Kapur and Amit Ahuja join us to discuss their book ‘Internal Security in India - Violence, Order and the State’. We found this to be a very insightful conversation. Do listen in.
इस हफ्ते पुलियाबाज़ी पर हमारे साथ जुड़े दो विख्यात पॉलिटिकल साइंटिस्ट देवेश कपूर और अमित अहूजा, जिन्होंने भारत की आतंरिक सुरक्षा के विषय पर एक बेहतरीन किताब संकलित की है।  हिंसा, कानून, बढ़ता केन्द्रीकरण - ऐसे कई ज़रूरी मुद्दों पर उन्होंने अपने संशोधन पर आधारित अपने बोध शेयर किये। हमें तो बहुत कुछ नया समझने को मिला, आशा है कि हमारी बातचीत आपको भी पसंद आये। तो सुनियेगा ज़रूर।

***Further Reading  ****
Internal Security in India | Book by Amit Ahuja and Devesh Kapur
https://amzn.eu/d/eSlJklZ
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Ep. 136 हमारी क़ानून व्यवस्था का रिपोर्ट कार्ड. The State of Law & Order in India ft. Valay Singh
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Puliyabaazi Ep. 34: हमारी राजनीति आख़िर ऐसी क्यों है?
https://youtu.be/jQa7SsLvw-c
Episode Title inspired by the song ‘Haal Chal Theek Thak Hai’
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आंतरिक सुरक्षा: हालचाल ठीक-ठाक है? Internal Security in India ft. Devesh Kapur & Amit Ahuja

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क्या आपने कभी सोचा है कि एक न्यायपूर्ण समाज कैसा दिखता है? आज हम न्यायपूर्ण समाज की दो परिकल्पना को समझेंगे, जॉन रॉल्स और रोबर्ट नोज़िक के दृष्टिकोण से। जॉन रॉल्स करते हैं समानता की पैरवी, जब के नोज़िक रखते हैं स्वतंत्रता का पक्ष। इस पुलियाबाज़ी में हम दोनों पक्षों के तर्क को समझने की कोशिश करेंगे।  क्या इसमें कोई समाधान की आशा है? वो तो आप ही सुनिए, सोचिये और बताइये।  In this episode of Puliyabaazi, we delve into the philosophical debate between John Rawls and Robert Nozick on what makes a just society. What is more important? equality or liberty? John Rawls proposes the "veil of ignorance" thought experiment, where individuals choose principles of justice for a society while not knowing their own social status. Robert Nozick, on the other hand, prioritizes individual liberty. His book Anarchy, State, and Utopia argues for minimal government intervention, emphasizing the right to keep what one has justly acquired.  The Debate Heats Up This episode is an exploration of these two differing points of view. We unpack their core arguments, identify their strengths and weaknesses, and delve into some real-world implications of their ideas. We discuss: * Is philosophy useful in crafting policy? * Rawls’ Theory of Justice * Greatest Equal Liberty Principle * Maximin Principle * Do we really believe in equality? * Nozick’s answer to Rawls * A patterned distribution will not work Readings: A Theory of Justice by John Rawls Anarchy, State and Utopia by Robert Nozick Listen to related Puliyabaazi: गांधी टैगोर की पुलियाबाज़ी. The Gandhi Tagore Debates एक सवाल, कई जवाब: क्या सम्पत्ति कर आर्थिक असमानता से निजात दिला सकता है? Can wealth tax solve economic inequality? If you have any questions for the guest or feedback for us, please comment here or write to us at puliyabaazi@gmail.com. If you like our work, please subscribe and share this Puliyabaazi with your friends, family and colleagues. Website: https://puliyabaazi.in Hosts: @saurabhchandra @pranaykotas @thescribblebee Twitter: @puliyabaazi  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/puliyabaazi/ Subscribe & listen to the podcast on iTunes, Google Podcasts, Castbox, AudioBoom, YouTube, Spotify or any other podcast app. 

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फैक्ट्री बनाने के दुखड़े। How Poor Building Standards Hurt Indian Firms ft. Bhuvana Anand and Sargun Kaur

हम सभी जानते है कि भारत की राज्य क्षमता यानी की state capacity सीमित है। इसका असर आम भारतीयों के जीवन पर भी होता है। प्राथमिक शिक्षा का उदाहरण लें तो यदि हम यथास्थिति बनाए रखते हैं, तो 2047 तक, हमारे पास अन्य 20 करोड़ बच्चे होंगे जो बुनियादी साक्षरता के बिना प्राथमिक शिक्षा पूरी करेंगे। लेकिन बड़ा सवाल यह है कि राज्य की क्षमता कैसे बढ़ाई जाए? सरकारी नौकरशाही के ब्लैक बॉक्स को कैसे सुधारा जाए?  इन्हीं कुछ अहम सवालों के जवाबों की खोज प्रोफेसर कार्तिक मुरलीधरन की नयी किताब में। माफ़ कीजियेगा, ये किताब नहीं, ग्रंथ है। आज की पुलिया पर उसकी झांकी लीजिये, वो भी प्रोफ़ेसर साहब की सहज हिंदी में। हमें तो कई उत्तर मिलें। आप भी सुनिए, और कुछ सवाल हो तो हमें ज़रूर भेजिए।  The Indian state takes up mighty goals, but fails to fulfil them due to its limited state capacity. This has disastrous consequences on the lives of ordinary Indians. Take the example of primary education—if we maintain the status quo, by 2047, we will have another 20 crore children that will finish primary school without basic literacy. But the big question is how to increase state capacity? How to tweak the black box of government bureaucracy to make it work better?  In this puliyabaazi, we look for some answers from Prof. Karthik Muralidharan’s new book that combines scholarly research and practical insights to provide actionable, evidence-based strategies for better governance.  Readings: Accelerating India’s Development by Karthik Muralidharan  acceleratingindiasdevelopment.in Listen to related Puliyabaazi: आर्थिक सुधारों की कहानी मोंटेक सिंह अहलूवालिया की ज़ुबानी। Backstage with Montek Singh Ahluwalia बेलगाम संस्थाएं, जनता का नुकसान। Caged Tiger ft. Subhashish Bhadra If you have any questions for the guest or feedback for us, please comment here or write to us at puliyabaazi@gmail.com. If you like our work, please subscribe and share this Puliyabaazi with your friends, family and colleagues. Website: https://puliyabaazi.in Hosts: @saurabhchandra @pranaykotas @thescribblebee Guest: @karthik_econ Twitter: @puliyabaazi  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/puliyabaazi/ Subscribe & listen to the podcast on iTunes, Google Podcasts, Castbox, AudioBoom, YouTube, Spotify or any other podcast app. 

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भारत के विकास की चाबी। Accelerating India’s Development with Karthik Muralidharan

इस हफ़्ते पुलियाबाज़ी पर हमारे दो बेंगलुरु निवासी होस्ट ‘कारे मेघा, कारे मेघा’ का आलाप लगाते पाए गए। पानी कब बरसेगा ये तो पता नहीं, पर इस पानी की समस्या में छिपे कुछ पब्लिक पॉलिसी के पाठ प्रणय ने ख़ोज निकाले। जब किसी संसाधन की कमी हो तो उसकी सही कीमत लगाने से  उसका सही उपयोग निश्चित किया जा सकता है, ये तो पुलियाबाज़ी के श्रोता जानते ही होंगे।  आज की पुलियाबाज़ी में नज़र दौड़ाते हैं बेंगलुरु में मिल रहे पानी की सही कीमत और उसे कौन चुकाता है इसके बारे में भी। इसी साथ पब्लिक पॉलिसी समझने के एक फ्रेमवर्क विकसैलियन कनेक्शन को भी समझ लेते हैं।  As the graph below shows, the silicon valley of India is experiencing a heat wave. This is going to exacerbate the ongoing water crisis.  While many find the solution in drawing more from Kaveri, Pranay analyses the issue through the framework of Wicksellian Connection—a public policy framework that looks for an overlap between the three aspects of utilising a scarce resource. Who decides? Who gets the benefit? Who pays for it?  How does Bengaluru’s water supply fare when tested on this framework? What are the consequences of such a Wicksellian Disconnection and how can it be resolved? This and more on today’s Puliyabaazi. We discuss: * A public policy view to water crisis * A Wicksellian Disconnection * Subsidising the elite * Water usage in Singapore * Solution based on this framework * Where to apply this framework? Readings: India Policy Watch #1: A Wicksellian Disconnection by Pranay Kotasthane Well Labs Bengaluru Urban Water Balance Report Bangalore Water Crisis: Marginal pricing of water, subsidies to poor may curb water woes by Anupam Manur Listen to related Puliyabaazi: भारत: एक भूजल सभ्यता। India: A Groundwater Civilisation. कावेरी जल विवाद को कैसे सुलझाएं? Resolving the Kaveri water dispute If you have any questions or feedback for us, please comment here or write to us at puliyabaazi@gmail.com. If you like our work, please subscribe and share this Puliyabaazi with your friends, family and colleagues. Website: https://puliyabaazi.in Hosts: @saurabhchandra @pranaykotas @thescribblebee Twitter: @puliyabaazi  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/puliyabaazi/ Subscribe & listen to the podcast on iTunes, Google Podcasts, Castbox, AudioBoom, YouTube, Spotify or any other podcast app. 

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आंतरिक सुरक्षा: हालचाल ठीक-ठाक है? Internal Security in India ft. Devesh Kapur & Amit Ahuja

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