in this episode we talk with West Midlands Chief Fire Officer Phil Loach in the UK about the upcoming symposium on international best practices in CRR that the UK National Fire Chiefs Council is doing in partnership with The Vision 20/20 Project. You can find more information about this ground-breaking symposium at https://www.nationalfirechiefs.org.uk/NFCC-Events/nfcc-vision-20-20-international-symposium/8359?OccId=12034