carla bergman isn't an anarchist, communist "or any -ist, really." Instead, she is interested in prioritizing people over projects. Her book "Joyful Militancy", written with Nick Montgomery, explores the idea of dismantling oppressive forces by creating joy on the interpersonal level. Whether she is working at alternatives to schools or creating space for conversation on her podcast "Grounded Futures", her goal is to maximize our ability to help one another through mutual aid. In this interview, we talk about how she came to write "Joyful Militancy", and what her work looks like in 2020.