We are discussing the July/August edition of FrontLine, featuring the theme "Growing Fathers."

Growing Fathers is not only the theme of this edition but it is also a blog and a podcast. We include links here in our show notes.

Our guest today is Chris Pennington. His article for FrontLine was called, "5 Things Kids Need to Hear Dad Say" The article was published a few years ago on the Growing Fathers blog, and republished in our latest FrontLine. In our conversation, we talk about the things Chris wrote about in the article as well as discussing other things that Chris has learned in the ensuing years.

We hope you find this conversation helpful for your own lives. God gave us children so we could raise them for his glory. Chris offers us some thoughtful insight on part of that process. We hope you take it in and share it with others. If you are in the child-rearing stage, share it with your peers. If you are a grandfather, like me, share it with your sons and others you are discipling. Encourage others to listen to our podcast, and this time, check out the Growing Fathers blog and podcast as well. These young men are doing a good work for God and we want to help them get more attention for the work they are doing.

Before we get to the interview, let me remind you that Chris's article is available on our substack right away for paying subscribers. We have previews for everyone else. I hope you will join with us and support the ministry of the FBFI by becoming a paying subscriber.

Chris's article for paying subscribers (excerpt for everyone else):

5 Things Kids Need to Hear Dad Say

Growing Fathers Links:

Growing Fathers Blog | Helping Christian Dads Grow

Growing Fathers Podcast | Helping Christian Dads Grow

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